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Wt based completely on Qt libraries.

Added by Rathnadhar K V over 9 years ago. Updated almost 9 years ago.

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07/28/2014
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Namasthe,

Currently wt juggles with Qt and Boost. I extensively code on qt. I need to track on qt release + boost release to ensure that wt works. Its bit tough.

Qt is a very mature framework. Can wt be based solely on qt so that we can worry about qt rather than qt and boost. All internal boost references to be switched over to qt. That would be wonderful to have !!

Request wt to be based only on qt than qt & Boost.

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Updated by Mathieu Vadnais over 9 years ago

Currently, as far as I understand, the only place Qt is used in the Wt framework is in the libwtwithqt compatibility layer. I would find it very dangerous in term of future software development to rely on a sole external framework such as Qt (a great framework by the way). Qt seems to be more and more oriented toward business and less on open source code so that could be a risk to add more Qt into Wt. The little overhead for developers to have both (qt and boost) is reasonable. My 2 cents, keep the compatibility layer as it is needed by many developers working on multiplatform applications but throw boost out of Wt...

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Updated by Mathieu Vadnais over 9 years ago

Mathieu Vadnais wrote:

Currently, as far as I understand, the only place Qt is used in the Wt framework is in the libwtwithqt compatibility layer. I would find it very dangerous in term of future software development to rely on a sole external framework such as Qt (a great framework by the way). Qt seems to be more and more oriented toward business and less on open source code so that could be a risk to add more Qt into Wt. The little overhead for developers to have both (qt and boost) is reasonable. My 2 cents, keep the compatibility layer as it is needed by many developers working on multiplatform applications but do not throw boost out of Wt...

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Updated by Rathnadhar K V over 9 years ago

Namasthe Mathieu,

I see that QT has complete framework both for core and GUI. It also has extremely rich set of widgets. The only issue is that it does not have a good webkit like wt. The qtWebKit is too heavy...oriented towards desktops.

So I think it should be pretty easy to develop wt solely on qt but for the philosophical discussion of OSS and non-OSS. The best part is the very good documentation. So if we have native qt support throughout then wt will be easy to work with and also easy to maintain.

There are tons of OSS projects on qt. So there is no chance of them going non-oss way.

Standardization on qt would be, in my opinion, a great boost for wt.

Regards

Rathna

Actions #4

Updated by Mathieu Vadnais over 9 years ago

Hello Rathna,

One major point in favor of using boost is also that it targets a standardization of its libraries by the C Standard Committee. Eventually, we might think that the boost features used by Wt could be standardized into C language. This will never happen with a library such as Qt.

Regards,

Mathieu

Actions #5

Updated by Koen Deforche over 9 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Feedback
  • Target version changed from 3.3.3 to 3.3.4

Hey,

Yes, we have been considering in how far we can already become 'boost-free' when considering C++11, which would have also the benefit of improving compile time.

We'll probably never considering to rely on Qt.

Regards,

koen

Actions #6

Updated by Prasad Dixit over 9 years ago

@ I would find it very dangerous in term of future software development to rely on a sole external framework such as Qt (a great framework by the way). Qt seems to be more and more oriented toward business and less on open source code so that could be a risk to add more Qt into Wt.

Then probably it shouldn't be called Wt. It sets wrongs expectations for users :-/

Actions #7

Updated by lm at almost 9 years ago

"It sets wrong expectations for users"

Not at all. I just recently started working with Wt, and my expectation was that it would feel much like Qt. Even though Wt doesn't actually rely on Qt, it is made in exactly the same spirit.

Expecting C developers to be familiar with the little boost that is in Wt is a very small requirement, and not much more than asking them to be familiar with the standard libraries.

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